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Dennis's avatar

Disclaimer: I'm way out of my depth here, but that's never stopped me from wading deeper.

2 + 2 = 4 is true as a consequence of the defined properties of natural numbers. It is real by definition. It is somewhat real in the sense that it has implications when you file your taxes etc.

However, the number 2 is an idea abstracted from experience. Abstraction leaves out part of the real experience, 2 is a detached fragment of something like 2 rabbits. The truth of 2 + 2 = 4 depends on real issues such as what is being counted and how long you expect the statement to apply. 2 rabbits + 2 rabbits could equal dinner for a pack of wolves or 40 rabbits or some rich fertilizer and a pile of bones. The problem with truth is that it's never quite true because everything connects through a dense web of cause and effect, whereas our idea of a thing ignores the irrelevant connections to make a discrete thing thinkable. Whatever I am thinking, my idea may be relatively true but never quite true. I am reminded of another Big Think, that the only exact map of a thing is the thing itself.

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Kyle Elam's avatar

People often invoke something like “2 + 2 = 4” to assert that truth must be absolute and self-evident. It's simple, clean, and seemingly immune to interpretation. But this inclination reveals more about our need for certainty than it does about how truth actually works in the material world.

Yes, 2 + 2 = 4 is true within the framework of arithmetic, which is a symbolic system built on defined rules. It’s internally consistent. But the real world isn’t a closed system like math. The brain doesn’t process the world in such neat, isolated equations. We experience life through limited perception, language, emotion, and messy context.

So while 2 + 2 = 4 represents a kind of idealized truth, it's a poor metaphor for the kind of truth we try to describe in social, emotional, political, or physical reality. Truth in the real world is entangled in bandwidth limits, linguistic abstraction, and flawed sensory interpretation.

It’s not that truth doesn’t exist. It’s that the way we access and describe it is constrained, like a toddler trying to explain gravity without words.

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